Considering Military [Archive]

crimsonblack

08-29-07, 02:34 PM

I spent six-years in the Navy aboard submarines. You will be tested when you see the recruiter to check what you qualify for. I believe they still do that. Your recruiter will work out your service time with you - how many active, how many reserve, etc. If you qualify try to select something that will be in demand when you are ready to get out. Something that will allow you to make money no matter where you choose to live when you get out. It's not just a six year enlistment. It's the down payment on the rest of your life. I recommend doing it all active rather than having reserve time if you plan on getting out and being done with it.

The biggest experience and life changing thing is boot camp. You hear so much crap about it, but it's life building and you don't even know it. They tear you down and build you back up.

I never knew it or realized how much I had grown up during that span until I went home to see me friends. I was amazed at how childish they were. They had somehow changed while I was gone and then I realized I was different. I had left being a boy behind and came out the other side a man. My views on things thinged. My sense of duty, honor and whatever else you want to call it had become those of an adult. You will learn teamwork and friendship. Watching out for someone else rather than just yourself. It is an experience.

I received training and schooling in something I have used my entire life. It has been molded, mutated and reshaped, but the military is where my career and my life started. I left my youth behind for a brighter future.

The military is NOT for everyone. If you cannot handle being told what to do, when to do it, then don't do it. You can't call in sick when you don't feel like going to work. You cannot leave early because you have a date or party to go to. You will be responsible to the military 24/7. If you can handle all that, you can get a lot out of the military. You get out what you put in. That is a truth.

1. Marines - Very physical, second on the beach, first to get credit. Not a lot of technical training. Lots of weapons training and standing a post. Nicest dress uniforms.
2. Army - First on the beach, not credit. Lot's of vehicle & equipment training. - Great stuff if you want to be a mechanic when you get out. Some technical fields too. Green fatiques are nice.
3. Air Force - Too specialized. Lots of specialized technical training. Never in the midst of any real action. Probably the least preferred of the armed forces. (learn to work on the left wing of the plane and you can't work on the right wing.) ugliest dress uniforms. Most wear the green fatigues.
Navy - Hard working, best training and opportunity. Lots of technicial fields - electronics, mechanical, hydraulics, etc. Must enjoy being on the water - lots of ports of call - except on subs. lots of isolation time. Awesome dress blues, summer uniforms are like ice cream sales people. Work blues are comfortable and yeah, you do look like gilligan.

Good luck with your choice. That's my two-cents.

Dark Kent

08-29-07, 02:55 PM

If you can still jerk off with that hand you can join any service...
But seriously the military can really help you discover what you want to do and will definitely show you what you don't want to do.
Just remember these days the chances of going to Iraq or any of the stans are pretty high. Just something to think about.
Recruiters assume you know this stuff and wont neccessarily volunteer to it to you. But Uncle Sam can always use new soldiers/airmen/seamen.
Good luck and god bless amustangmerica.

hopewellsh

08-29-07, 05:05 PM

The Navy used to have a lot of port calls, now after 9/11 the port calls are getting a little more rare depending on where you do your cuise too. My last six month deployment we only hit 2 ports and that was after 159 days at sea straight. The next cruise I went on was only for less than 3 months and we again hit only 2 ports......alot different from my first years in the Navy where you would hit 2-3 per month. When dealing with recuriters you have to know the questions to ask and how to ask them. I was told by a former recuriter that if I asked him "Will I have to cut my hair when I go to boot camp?" and he would of been able to say no with a straight face and not be lying, I asked him how. He simply told me he never finished the statement of "someone else will cut it for you".

You will also have a min. 8 year obligation total, for example 4yrs active and 4yrs in the inactive or 6 and 2. This is not to scare you off and make you reconsider because you can learn some good trades in the military that are becoming useful in the civilian sector. I have been a Machinist Mate for 17 years and looking into the field of Power Plant Operator I can make around $50,000-$55,000 when I retire from the Navy. This would be made on top of my retirement check from uncle sam of about half that. Depending on what state you join from also has some perks too, for instance if you do your time honorably and joined from Il or Tx when you get out your school in state is paid for by the state you just need to check how your state treats vets. I do believe that there are a few more just not sure of what states they are.

Hope all this information helps to make a choice in the matter and if you really want to get in you can and not be kept out because of your hand, you might be able to get a waiver depending on how bad/good your hand is too.

99AtlBlueGT

08-29-07, 08:47 PM

AF for 6 years now...I feel the same about the Army/Marines as crimsonblack...BUT THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE about the AF/Navy.

The AF is not the lesser choice....it is the hardest to get into..LOL I have worked with many of branches and still do, there are likes and dislikes for every military member about every branch. The navy would honestly be the last branch I would join. And I can tell you this....almost EVERY friend I have that is in another branch has told me that they wished they joined the A/F. The AirForce generally has the nicest of everything. That is well known.

Anyways, the left wing right wing thing....don't listen to it. Aircraft techs are efficient in almost every aspect of their career field, hence why the AF has the highest standards fro entry into active duty and the highest failure rate in technical training. Now they do have different fields, such as electronics, mechanical, HVAC etc on each aircraft....but that is because the jobs get done at a higher pace, and more accurately.

I was stationed in the Plains of Wyoming for a few years...working on one of the most powerful and deadliest Missiles of all time. (Peacekeeper ICBM) On every trip to the field to work....I was responsible for over 170 different tasks.....one of the most complex jobs in the military. from the support vehicles, to maintenance on the gyro/missile guidance system....we did it all.

If water and cracker jack uniforms is cool, join the Navy. If you like to wear face paint, join the Army. If you wanna act like a badass, learn to kill, and have a short life expectancy when deployed to the sandbox join the Marines. If you want good food, nice rooms, maids, a high standard of living, and a good technical job with the least painful deployment, join the Air Force.

99AtlBlueGT

08-29-07, 08:53 PM

If you can still jerk off with that hand you can join any service...

LOL That might have been true many years ago, but the Air Force is not like that. You pretty much have to be perfect now. They were even a little more lax when I joined...but they still made me pay down my debt before i joined, made me clear a few spots on my record, and made me lose muscle to join. I was 227 pounds standing 6' tall. My neck and waste measurements were on the big side, and my ideal weight was around 20 pound lower then where i was at...and i showed them my abs....lol Still no go. Finally lost the weight, and doctor had to give me a check up and say i was healthy before they even waivered my size. lol

No1FordGirl

08-29-07, 09:12 PM

Not much advice, just sending you a "Good Luck" with your decision :thumbsup:

EXKB2000GT

08-29-07, 09:17 PM

Crimson my first reaction was to fire right back at you and tell you that your post sucked. However, you did offer up some good information that I agree with. A few other things I disagree with.

Who gives a shit what branch of service has the nicest uniforms? That shouldn't be a deciding factor for someone investing their life in the defense of our country.

You seem biased toward the Air Force and are obviously uneducated as to what life in the Air Force is really about. I can't blame you for that, spending 6 years on a submarine doesn't give you a chance to get out much. You deploy on a boat with 3000 other dudes for 6 months, I deploy to a base. Take your pick! And I'm used to members of the other services saying that the AF is the least preferred or disliked. Let's all think outside the box on this and why it can be like that...the AF quality of life and how we do business differs greatly from the other services. If I go to a field exercise at Fort Pork with the army..the army guys are eating MRE's and sleeping on cots in the warehouse. The AF shows up in our rental cars, goes to AppleBees for lunch and stays in a hotel. When deployed we always have AC, heaters, and amenities that the other services just don't get. There is always anomosity towards the AF, I'm used to it and it's just how it is.

There is a hell of a lot more going on in the AF than just airplane mechanics..civil engineers, vehicle operators, vehicle mechanics, radar, weather, computers, medical, dental and all other support functions on base. As for the AF being too specialized?? Not to be offensive, but that's an ignorant statement. Whether you're working on a multi-million dollar vehicle, millions of dollars worth of airplane, satellites or whatever...goddam right your ass better be specialized!!! As a vehicle mechanic I have more opportunities to further my skills and education than I know what to do with. I can take ASE tests for free. The military pays 100% tuition assistance so I can take any classes I want. Right now I'm halfway to a bachelor's degree and I haven't paid a dime other than books. Back on track, we constantly get opportunities for advanced training and advancement. Here at the vehicle maintenance schoolhouse we teach classes from basic vehicle systems, all the way thru advanced classes for steering, suspension, hydraulics, electrical systems and the welding school is being set up here in the next year. Now how many stang enthusiasts wouldn't enjoy that or find it useful??

Insane99...I'm not going to sit here and tell you what it's like to be in the other services, it wouldn't be an honest representation since I haven't served in those other services. You're doing the best thing right now, asking questions and doing some research first. You're going to get biased opionions, that's just how it goes. Just take the information and decide what's best for you...not just right now, but 5,10, 15 years down the road.

But to break it down..free medical, dental, guaranteed paycheck, 30 vacation days a year. What other jobs can you start out like that? There are plenty of educational benefits if you want to finish your education while you're in as well.

EXKB2000GT

08-29-07, 09:18 PM

Hey Kelly, what's up clown!!!!

EXKB2000GT

08-29-07, 09:29 PM

The one comment that does piss me off, saying that the AF is "never in the midst of any real action." I don't know you, but that fuckin pissed me off for someone to make that comment without having any information to back it up. Obviously you haven's spent any time in the sand box on convoy duty have you? Who the hell do you think a lot of those vehicle operators are? Who do you think a lot of the mechanics are that work on those convoy vehicles? So I guess an AF mechanic deployed for 12 months to Afghanistan, to teach vehicle maintenance to troops in the Afghan National Army isn't considered to be seeing any real action?? I'm sure you got a lot of "action" riding around on a submarine for 6 years huh?

I'm not trying to start any shit, but this guy asked a legit question. Don't say stupid shit about the military, that may affect his decision, if you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

insane99svt

08-29-07, 10:50 PM

So another question is pay how much do you get paid

EXKB2000GT

08-29-07, 11:09 PM

http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/2006militarypaytables/2007MilPaycharts-cc.pdf

That link is to the military pay table. All branches of the service are on the same pay scale. You'll start as an E-1. Some branches give you credit for college or other crap and you can start as an E-2 or E-3 after you graduate your training school. The longer you're in, the more get paid, along with promotions. If you live off base or in base housing if you have a family, you will also get BAS which is basicly a food allowance. That is about $270 a month. If you live off base, you will get a housing allowance. That depends on where you're stationed, your rank and if you have any family. For example, I'm at E-6 with 10 years, plus $270, plus $1556 for my monthly pay. Only the basic pay is taxed, the food and housing allowances are tax free. You get paid every two weeks, direct deposit, no matter where you're at or what you're doin.

http://www.dfas.mil/navy2/militarypay/allowances.html

EXKB2000GT

08-29-07, 11:13 PM

You don't make a lot of money or get rich in the military, especially starting out. But, if you're financially responsible and don't over extend yourself with credit and dumb shit, it's not too bad.

Also, while you're deployed you get other allowances as well...hostile fire pay, imminent danger pay, family seperation pay and everything is tax free. I know a lot of guys that deploy for 6 months and come back with anywhere from $10K to $40K saved up.

Onesmokin98

08-29-07, 11:39 PM

But Uncle Sam can always use new soldiers/airmen/seamen.

haha

But seriously, If you arent quite sure what you want to do I think the suggestion of the reserves is a really good idea because you can get the military opportunity/expierence but you can also keep searching for your path in life.

EXKB2000GT

08-29-07, 11:51 PM

I tend to disagree. (imagine that!) If you're gonna do it, do it all the way. You can always start out active duty and then switch over to the reserves later.

Onesmokin98

08-29-07, 11:59 PM

^haha, tousche. I agree with full active duty as well, cause chances are they are gonna send you no matter what.

Fuck it dude, just join the army and be a Ranger

hopewellsh

08-30-07, 09:25 AM

Not one to bring hostility to a topic.....and I won't when it come to the military no matter what branch it is. My dad and uncle have both retired from the Air Force and I grew up in that atmoshphere. One of my grandfathers was in the Army as EOD and one was a SeaBee in the south Pacific during WWII and had an uncle in the Marines, plus have a brother-in-law that is in the Coast Guard (yes they are still considered the military). The Coast Guard is one you might want to look at also, you can get stationed in some odd places since they still control the locks on the river systems. The main question is what do you want to do and EXKB2000GT is correct about the A/F. I walked in to their recuiter office since my dad was in the air force at the time but he just rubbed me wrong and this was before the whole 9/11 by about 11 years so they never seemed to have a problem getting recurites. The Navy is doing alot to try and make quality of life for junior and new sailors to come up to the standards of the Air Force. Currently they are trying to get funding for living in condo style housing while the ship is in home port but that seems to be about 2-3 years in the future depending on where you are stationed. I would recommend if you join the Navy to look at going into the air side it. Get into a squadron and it will be more like the Air Force side but you still get to go on ships. One of the things I miss the most of being out at sea is going on deck early morning and watching the sun come up on a peacful ocean. The Pacific was great for that, watching the flying fish jumping and sipping on a cup of coffee. Make sure you are doing your research and talk to people that are vets about their experiences and also those that are currently serving to find out how they like it and some of the things they dislike also. The military has changed alot in the 17years since I joined and believe me I am looking forward to retirement in 3 years, where else can you retire after 20 years and go looking for a second career while drawing a check for the rest of your life? I also make a pretty good amount right now as an E-6 and can afford quit a bit. I am still paying on my Mach 1 plus have two Harley Davidson payments and a house mortage and if my wife didn't want to work she wouldn't need to. The only saving grace in this is we don't have any kids to support so I can afford all my toys :rockon:

You do have to wear a uniform and until you get high enough in rank you have to take alot of orders. All branches have this in common so if you can't handle those two things you don't stand a chance. Good luck with your choice and to all the other military members that are currently serving or have served, thank you.

Dark Kent

08-30-07, 10:13 AM

^This is the one thing that people just dont seem to get...
I dont care where you work. Unless you are the boss you will be taking orders or you wont have a job. The military is just more structured.
The air force is to me seems a little more coorperate minded.
The army is more "do it now and discuss it later"
Marines "do it because Gunny and God says so"
I dont know where I'd be without the army. It's not for everybody.
If you have a strong will and dont things too personal you can go far with it.
Or use it as a stepping stone for future.
If you decide to join the army send me your info so I can get the 2 grand referal bonus ;-)

EXKB2000GT

08-30-07, 10:15 AM

Hopewell, I'm actually an instructor working with the SeaBees right now at the Interservice Mechanic's School. I really enjoy working with the Seabees, they do a lot of cool shit!

I was in the same boat right after high school..no good jobs and I didn't want to go to college. I couldn't stay at home so the military became a choice. I had no clue about any of the services at the time. My dad was drafted into the Army and spent 13 months in Vietnam, I had an uncle in the Coast Guard, two other uncles in the Marines and my aunt was in the Navy...every single one of them told me the AF was the way to go. I didn't understand why at the time, but I definitely know why now. Some people want the Army and Marine lifestyle and hardcore military type of life. If that's you, then go for it and I respect that completely. I also appreciate that because it's not a job I want to do! If you want military service, but still close to being a regular day job then look at the Navy or the AF. Occasionally I've worked long hours, overtime and all that good stuff, but for the most part it's been a 7 am to 4 pm, 5 days a week type of job. I get plenty of time off to do whatever it is that I want to do. Generally if you work hard, you're afforded the opportunities to play hard..but your job always come first.

And as you stated, you will take orders regardless of what branch you serve in. What you realize as you spend time doing your job and you grow..those "orders" are mostly your responsibilities anyway. The order may not always be directly related to your exact specialty, but in some way it all ties together in the end.

Some people will be given more orders than others of the same rank. One reason for that.. if you're shit hot, taking initiative and doing what you're supposed to be doing anyway you won't be given as many orders. The turds, lazy bastards and people with bad attitudes are the ones complaining about being told what to do.

Also as Hopewell stated, I've had my share of toys that I bought and paid for while I've been in. These younger guys must get paid decent these days as well, because this base is full of pickup trucks and trailers with dirt bikes, four wheelers and all kinds of crap. Most guys at work are either building drag cars, have RVs, or whatever they're into. And they're all mostly younger than 40. I've had a 67 camaro, a 77 CJ Jeep, two harleys, my 2000 Mustang GT had well over $10K of upgrades including the Kenne Bell, I bought my dad a 94 GT that's now his pride and joy, I just bought a 21 foot bass boat brand new off the lot. So, you can do very well for yourself if you're responsible with your money and don't blow it on dumb shit.

5.0herewego

08-30-07, 02:10 PM

the army helped me with getin on with the police dp.

MeJay Racing

08-31-07, 04:20 PM

The Navy really helped me get my priorities straight and put me on the right track for life. I believe any service can if you let it. But I will say that in the 6.5 years I was in I only did 1.5 six month cruises but did get to go a hellova lot of awesome places!!

underdog03

08-31-07, 05:17 PM

Well I'm in the Active Army right now, so of course the pride is there. Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marines have their ups and downs. The reason I went into the Army was because they CAN guarantee your job and duty station of your choice, and there was a money bonus. Bonuses are everywhere though. I've always been a physical kind of person, so I went into the Army. Every branch has their "hardcore's" and their "wussy's", but dont I repeat dont go into the reserves. The reserves is not the "real" Army at all. ALL my friends that have gotten out of the Army and joined the reserves, said that there is no discipline, knowledge, or anything. Join and get a RIP contract like the other guy said in a previous post. RIP is Ranger Indoctrination Program. Be a Ranger. That's pretty hardcore. If you plan to get out, honestly, look for a job that will benifit you for when you do get out. I'm a lifer myself, so I don't care that I went Infantry. But whatever you do I hope it works out for you!

HASTYMUSTANG

09-01-07, 09:17 PM

Hey guys im an e-4 mechanic in the coast guard, my older brother is e5 in the air force, my younger brother is at paris island right now supposed to grad nov 8. our dad is retired 26 yr airborn ranger, my mom is med flight coordinator at ft. cambell ky. we all love it. there is no other organization that takes care of its own like the military. i live in a place where there isnt any other military except the coasties and when you give somebody a hand on the street they can tell we're military. they say we're the only people that do that kind of stuff anymore. i've been jumping from base to base since i was a baby and now me and my brothers decided that thats the life for us. but it's not for everybody. its one of those things that you'll never know what its really like till you get in. p.s hi im new

Stangpilot#27

09-07-07, 10:01 PM

I'm in the air force myself, have been for the last 6 years and just re-enlisted for another 4. Like with any job it has it's ups and downs. I am a heavy equipment operator, (aka: bulldozer jockey) it's what I signed up for, always wanted too operate the stuff. was stationed in california until Dec03, then I volunteered to move to montana and was assigned to the 819 Red Horse Squadron, which is a self sufficient mobile construction unit. basicly if they wanted an airfield in bum-fuck-egypt, we could build one.

TxCobra98#1

09-09-07, 11:04 AM

Apparently, Crimsonblack didn't get too much out of his military experience. EXKB2000GT...dude you hit perfectly. I retired from the military and quite frankly I have my opinions about each branch but Insane99svt you need to decide what you want out of your military experience and find the branch that best fits that picture of you. You will have to give a lot and what you get in return will be very rewarding. Most of us don't realize just how much we enjoyed the military until after it's over. Someone said..."you get what you put into it"...that is a true statement.
This could be a perfect opportunity for someone such as yourself who is at a point in their life where they're not sure what they want next. Lot's of people could flounder for a few years and make no headway but joining the military will be productive, fun, character building, inspiring and NOW is the perfect time. Why? If you're going to do a job...do it when you're needed! Do it when the "cause" is at it's greatest.
Study up, dig deep and figure out what you want. What's the vision you have of yourself as a military person. The military has 100's of positions that all offer a wide array of technical training. It's a great jump start to a career.
GO USAF!!!
Take care...

suddenblink

09-09-07, 02:45 PM

Here is my opinion. . . . . And i hope you are not dumb enough to pick a certain service because they have a nice dress uniform. And contrary to what everyone says it depends on what job you want to determine if you will see any action. Im in the Air Force and the job i picked up is 100 percent combat on ac130u gunships. You should decide what you want to do for a job then see what branch will fit your needs. I think all the branches have job listings online

rondeenee

09-09-07, 03:54 PM

I've been in the Army Reserves for over 20 years now, with 3 of them being mobilized (Active duty in support of the war). I went Reserves because I wasn't sure I'd like it, and turned out I've loved every minute of it. I am active duty now in TX and love doing what I do. If I had to do it over again, I'd definitely go Active all the way.

I know in the Army you can change your speciaties if you don't like the one you started out in, and therefore get more training in whatever field you want after you get out.

As far as getting deployed, as one of the guys said, you have a good chance of going overseas, and I'd rather go with an Active Duty unit that trains together every day than with a Reserve Unit that "trains" once a month.

It's a great life, and good luck with your decision. Lots of good advice from this group of military joes! Welcome to the site btw!

03roushs1

09-09-07, 06:10 PM

US Navy for 8 years now, got another 1.5 years left. I am getting out. I can make much more money on the outside. So my advice is do what feels right, and only sign the paper if you get exactly what you want, i.e., your job. I think, and this is cliche, the military is what you make of it. If you don't like it, get what you want out of the military and get out.

Rob

09-09-07, 06:44 PM

I'm 22 years Canadian Navy. Whatever you do you have to make sure you do it because you want to, not because you think you should. I think here it is the same as it is in the American Navy. The Navy is more than a job, it's a dedication. It can be the path you were looking for, but only if you want it to be. Good luck, and strong winds!

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 06:39 PM

And don't go in open general anything. Pick the job that you want.

Mike_DE

09-15-07, 06:49 PM

US Army for 2 1/2 years. Because of the Army I know have full certification for my job and can transfer EASILY to the job in the civilian world. Free health and dental, free housing and it will help tremendously in the future if you have a good record. I have gone farther and accomplished more than most of my HS graduating class has. If they wont give you the job you want the day you go you can always come back again to see if one opens up. You arent given 1 chance and 1 chance only to pick. I came back 5 days later and got the job I wanted that was full earlier

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 10:01 PM

bmwtech3

09-15-07, 10:35 PM

well not to knock the army but i was a medical sergent in the army and im working on cars for a living now so some certifications dont cary over to civillian world and airborne all the way

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 10:42 PM

I have 16 years in the Air Force as an Aircraft mechanic and I know those certifications will really do nothing for me when I retire in 4 years.

bmwtech3

09-15-07, 10:45 PM

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 10:53 PM

yea its a shame too cause i think you get more training there than in civilian world hell i was a pretty damn good medic when i was in but im still sort of a medic....lol i fix the rich guys broke ass bmw for a living and i love it

I am ready to do my own thing after I retire and I am tired of fixing those jets.

bmwtech3

09-15-07, 10:57 PM

ha ha i can only imagine man i would be tired too after 16 years

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 10:58 PM

It does get old and the Wife and want to open a bar & grill after I retire.

bmwtech3

09-15-07, 10:59 PM

sounds pretty good

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 11:01 PM

sounds pretty good

And make sure that the Military people get 20% off of their ticket when they show their I.D.'s or if they are in uniform.

bmwtech3

09-15-07, 11:03 PM

sweet sounds good what about the vets man dont forget....lol

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 11:04 PM

sweet sounds good what about the vets man dont forget....lol

I'll never forget about them.

bmwtech3

09-15-07, 11:07 PM

cool so i can get my 20% off my beer man...lol

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 11:07 PM

Pretty much as long as you have a Military ID.

bmwtech3

09-15-07, 11:12 PM

lol how about my dd214

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 11:14 PM

lol how about my dd214

LOL! I am sure that we could accommodate.

bmwtech3

09-15-07, 11:15 PM

nice man

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 11:16 PM

Can't forget about my brothers and sister that are serving in the Armed Forces or the ones who had served.

bmwtech3

09-15-07, 11:51 PM

man this sucks i found a site for the fallen servicemen from iraq and i saw someone i knew from growing up damn

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 11:55 PM

I have lost several friends since we first started going over there since '89.

bmwtech3

09-15-07, 11:57 PM

yea man thats a bad feeling

Sir Charles

09-15-07, 11:59 PM

It's never good too see someone that you know die at a young age.

Mike_DE

09-16-07, 01:26 PM

Sounds like you got lucky with your job to be able to come back days after and get what you wanted.One guy got out at E-6 and came back to the same place right after to work DA Civ. Most dont do that though. Most usually go for more schooling and go FAA instead of DA

Sir Charles

09-16-07, 03:41 PM

One guy got out at E-6 and came back to the same place right after to work DA Civ. Most dont do that though. Most usually go for more schooling and go FAA instead of DA

I am an E-6/TSgt and I am just going to ride out my last 4 years and then move back to Dallas, Texas.

bmwtech3

09-16-07, 03:43 PM

whats up charles

Sir Charles

09-16-07, 03:59 PM

Not much. Just put my daughter down for a nap and now it is nice and quiet in the house.

bmwtech3

09-16-07, 04:03 PM

yea im just watching some football and trackin my rantasy team

Sir Charles

09-16-07, 04:12 PM

yea im just watching some football and trackin my rantasy team

Thats cool. I forgot that today is Sunday.

bmwtech3

09-16-07, 04:14 PM

yeap you know it man the best day during this time of year

Sir Charles

09-16-07, 04:16 PM

I slept a lot today and forgot all about it. Probably because I had to work yesterday.

bmwtech3

09-16-07, 04:22 PM

yea i got to work next saturday

Sir Charles

09-16-07, 04:23 PM

I might also have too or the following Saturday.

wmorey

09-16-07, 10:17 PM

yea its a shame too cause i think you get more training there than in civilian world hell i was a pretty damn good medic when i was in but im still sort of a medic....lol i fix the rich guys broke ass bmw for a living and i love it

Well the only real difference between a medic and a mechanic is the medic has to fix it with the engine running!!!( just some food for thought).hehehe:thumbsup:

Sir Charles

09-16-07, 10:37 PM

Well the only real difference between a medic and a mechanic is the medic has to fix it with the engine running!!!( just some food for thought).hehehe:thumbsup:

Very true. LOL!

ur2slow

09-17-07, 10:16 AM

Insane99,
Go see a recruiter and ask them about bonus monies for signing. The military is hurting for people and now they are willing to pay you to join. Don't be afraid to play one service against another. The military is a good way to make some money, see the world and the benifits that you can receive after you get out will stay with you forever. I was in for 20 years, retired june 2007. I was fortunate not to have to go to Iraq, but I was a lot of other places.
Remember this though, not all jobs are infantry, and above all else you are in the military and this means that you may be told that you are going to be in combat.
Good luck,
ur2slow

Sir Charles

09-18-07, 08:42 AM

I see the Army recruiters all over the place now a days.

lugthug713

10-10-07, 03:35 PM

if you are single its the life but not really for a family.

2003cobra0126

11-25-07, 11:17 AM

All I am going to say is like a couple of others here have said - go see a recruiter. In fact, go see all of the branches and listen to what they tell you. Do not make any hasty decisions until you have done all research on incentives and choose what is best for YOU. If a recruiter starts to bash another service then that's when you know it's time to get up and leave. I am currently in the Army and have been for over 16 years. I too have worked with other branches and will say this - your service to your country is all that really matters. Is there a different flag that we all salute each and every day? I understand, everyone wants to promote the service they are in and say they are better then everyone else, wonderful. But you must be able to see through the BS and make the best decision for you. Last time I checked, every branch is currently in Iraq to include the Coast Guard. And it truely doesn't matter what job you do, you will still be subject to being shot at or having to deal with IED's or mortar fire.